AI jazz piano style tools lack readable notation
Problem
Users report that AI-generated jazz piano transcriptions lack keys and bar lines, making it difficult to follow complex elements like chromaticism, key changes, and syncopation. Additionally, models fail to fully capture artists' physical limitations and style nuances, and symbolic representation has limitations in information density and resolution causing timing jitter, hindering 'true' musical understanding.
Pain points
- Piano roll lacks keys and bar lines, making it hard to follow jazz chromaticism, key changes, and syncopation
- AI models fail to fully capture artists' physical limitations (e.g., reduced hand mobility after stroke) and reflect them in style simulations
- Symbolic music notation has limitations in information density and resolution, causing timing jitter and hindering 'true' musical understanding
Questions to verify
- Would a synchronized keyboard and bar line display in the piano roll help intuitively follow complex jazz rhythms?
- Can AI models be trained or adjusted to more accurately capture artists' physical limitations (e.g., reduced hand mobility after stroke) and reflect them in style simulations?
- Does symbolic music notation need optimization in information density and resolution to eliminate timing jitter and enable 'true' musical understanding?
Evidence
quote · @Anonymous
That “transcription” using piano roll (but without even showing the actual keys on the side, and without bar lines) is impossible to follow and doesn’t make sense for jazz, where chromaticism, key changes and syncopation are so common. I see a note and then another note that looks a little higher, are they a major third apart? Or maybe it’s a minor third? Was the first note a pickup? Or is it on the one? No way to know
quote · @Anonymous
This is amazing. I like very much that the approach is using symbolic music information instead of audio. It might help to better understand music some day (i.e. "really understand", not the helper projections the traditional music science works with). It's also interesting to notice the slight time jitter, likely due to the more discrete and limited "information density", or possibly round-off errors due to limited resolution of the weights. Maybe the paper answers it.
quote · @Anonymous
The Oscar Peterson one does seem to mostly understand that he had less mobility in one of his hands after the stroke but it uh... doesn't really get much else right.
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