Snapdragon X2 Linux 支持需求
问题概述
当前Qualcomm正在将Snapdragon X2系列的核心驱动(包括Hexagon NPU和Adreno GPU)上游至Linux。用户希望获得完整的设备树、UEFI/ACPI信息以及预装Linux的笔记本,以实现更好的电池续航、开箱即用的*nix环境,并能够自由升级硬件而不必重新刷写固件。
痛点标签
- 需要完整的设备树和UEFI/ACPI信息以在Linux上正常支持硬件
- 希望购买预装Linux的Snapdragon X2笔记本
- 希望得到开源、上游的核心驱动,而不是半专有的方案
- 愿意为接近Apple M 系列效率、长电池寿命和良好屏幕的Linux环境支付Apple 级价格
- 希望在升级CPU/GPU后仍能无需重新刷写固件即保留现有Linux环境
待验证问题
- 您是否愿意购买预装 Linux 的 Snapdragon X2 笔记本?
- 您是否需要更详细的设备树和 UEFI/ACPI 文档?
- 在升级硬件后,您希望无需重新刷写固件即可保留 Linux 环境吗?
证据
原话
I hope Qualcomm upstreams all the device tree kernel level stuff to Linux for every laptop model. One of the things I don't like about Arm Laptops is—for example—how even if a SoC is supported upstream, if the manufacturer does not upload a device tree for their device, then you're cooked.I read that while these Snapdragon laptops do technically have UEFI + ACPI, the information they provide is not useful for Linux and is more coupled with Qualcomm's proprietary drivers on Windows. Therefore, device trees are needed on Linux (I could be wrong about the first part).
原话
I think a lot of people don't realize the level of performance Qualcomm has reached with these. This is the closest competition to Apple's M series that we have, for the laptop form factor at least. They are better than Intel and AMD's best. I'd love to buy an X2 laptop with Linux preinstalled and supported.
原话
OpenBSD developer Tobias Heider (tobhe@) has already committed the first pieces of OpenBSD/arm64 support for these Qualcomm Snapdragon X2 Elite laptops."This gets USB, keyboard and touchpad working in ACPI mode on the HP Elitebook X G2q."https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=178891082169317&w=2Tobias (who also works for Canonical) recently demoed Ubuntu on mastodon and confirmed ARM EL2 works, meaning KVM support unlike previous generations.bsd.network/@tobhe/117122761215052773(I'd love to get my hands on one of these X2 Elite machines, hmu qcom.)
原话
Give me something that is 80% as efficient, 80% as good hw as the apple m-series but runs Debian (or Ubuntu) and I am happy to pay apple+ prices for pure linux experience. I say this as someone who just bought a new m5 machine. I have seen framework/sys76 but never pulled trigger.I don't really care about raw performance, just want long battery life, decent screen, and a *nix environment to work in. 99% of workload is going to be on a remote machine anyways.
原话
In case anyone else is wondering what they mean by linux support;> We're upstreaming core drivers for Snapdragon X2 Series — including the Hexagon NPU and Adreno GPU — to open the door to developers and partners.Glad this isn't going to be some semi-proprietary thing like support for chromebooks. Hopefully it continues.
原话
this work is focused on laptops with Snapdragon X2 Series. It does not currently cover desktop form factors, earlier Snapdragon X platforms, or other development boards. Readiness also varies by OEM design and Snapdragon X2 Series variant.So same ARM BS as usual - AMD and Intel x64 are still the kings when it comes to out the door Linux support.I'll buy a ARM PC when I can swap its motherboard CPU and GPU to a newer gen and my existing Linux install boots up without having to flash a new bootloader and custom vendor kernel with proprietary GPU blob.
事实
Linux support is coming to Snapdragon X2 series
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